jim comes from a state where guns are a huge issue. the truth is that it's been part of the american culture and tradition for a long time. particularly in rural areas. hunting, gun ownership, parents passing the tradition of hunting down. >> yep. >> to children. that's been part of our culture. on the other hand, we have in some of our communities real problems with violence and in chicago where i come from, we have had a terrible time with youth violence and gun violence. and we have to find a way to reconcile those things but one thing that gives me hope is that i see 90% -- 85%, 95% of americans saying yes to universal background checks for anyone buying a gun. that's an enormous step forward and i don't think the nra can defeat that. i think there's such a consensus among the american people for that. 65% of americans think we should limit the size of the magazines to a reasonable number of rounds so that we don't have situation where is people can open fire on a crowd and not have to reload. so they can't be subdued. so there are